Beslan topic

There is no gfx forum that brings this subject\attack in the spotlights.. hmm kinda shitty.. my opinion..

i read somewhere that the leader of the terrorists was dead.. but how true that is i dunno..

i disapprove the whole attack.. i dont like violence..
dont like it at all..

to many innocent people die out there..
wha tdo you think?

I agree with u fully on that one. Nothing cant be solved with words. If it comes down to it then a GfxBattle is as far as it should reach hehehe.

How about GfxNuclear War? Damn sounds like a good idea, all the members of GD against each other. No style, all design guns allowed, any approach any design level. :)

I think you guys are too lazy to start this.

Gfx war :p.. whaha

Well i been very mad about this incident, also on terrorists website it is written that the next strike will be in our town! Tons of police around the town, everybody who has arabic look beeing searched, well not everyone, but i been today.
I dont respect any violence on innocent people like women, children, old people.

hmm.. lame.. maybe put on a protest.. or something..

I guess people should stop saying stuff like " we will fight terrorists" and start doing things. First find the way they are getting money and arest those people, it is mostly one the richest people in the world! Then just do soem special forces, that will be doing spy stuff for detectign their basses and then.......then destroy the enemies with no mercy and show it on TV, so that others get scared.

Sorry if double post just been talking with SE on MSn and just gonna add some :

Why this incident happened in Beslan? Hey it is all Georgias work. As you could know part of Ossetia is trying to get back to Russia, become russian territory again. Georgia is not liking it. Their president says one thing, but does the different, so they just stroke the Beslan(which is situated in North Osetia).

There is still the Communists here, so one of them said : " We shouldnt let the Television make a bomb of it. We shoudl only show like " the terrorists attack in Beslan " over and nothign else, when the peopel resqued report from president " XXX Hostages resqued, XX died, we taking this and this actions to fight the terrorists" over." . By showing the movies of terrorist shooting at people, or by showing the planes strikinng "twin towers" on the 11'th of September, television wont do a good job, but advertising the terror, they want only this, to show they f*ck anybody they want. and i absolutely agree.

Why none gfx sites posted a topic about Beslan? Simple since nobody gives a f*ck until it comes to ya home. People became cold, cold to other people, i dont talk about everybody, no there are always sensitive people, but mostly we dont give a f*ck about it.

P.S. Will add more later, when i fix some more thoughts.

Why do these terrorists attack russia? Was it not because the russian government murdered their families, Ive seen some documentation about this a long time ago, it aint pretty what the russian army did over there :o Its horible what those terrorists did, dont take me wrong. But what would you do if they murdered a great amount of ur nation? Revenge I'd say.

I'm not sure if the people in russia are aware of what the army&government did to Tjetjenie, prob a ban on all the docs and news about that on the TV and news papers in russia or maybe 0,5 truth, manupilation: a powerful tool :roll:

However, I dont think kidnapping children is going change the past and present :roll: But you shouldnt just say: No mercy to all terrorists, you dont know what they've been trough, maybe their family was killed par example :?

I agree, the fact is, TERROR isnt a one way thing. Its something that gets exchanged - much like a football game. :?

Nobody is born into a "terrorist", but live experience changes the person to do certain things. :idea:

Just to open you the truth mine nothing knowing fellows. Tjechnja was and is our territory, a group of people from worldwide terrorist groups been taking Tjechnja leaders to follow them in the fight against Russia - the biggest country in the world, a tasty slice everybody wanna bite, by offering much land and money. Many people folowed them, flashed by the money. One of them, changed his mind!!!!!!!! His family name was Kadirov. He understood that those people aint nothign but terrorist, terrorist have no nationalities, they are just a trash, piece of junk, not people and it doesnt matter what target they are following.

Turning back to Kadirov. He took control of Checnja people and followed them in right path, become back againa Russia territory and send terrorists back! Terrorists been trying to assasin him 25 times! On the 26'rd he finally been done. Now his son is fighting the terror. It isnt a Russia started the war there, it is all a big plan of world terrorism groups, who try take control of the world. While talking with Bio he said :

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this small island(EnGLand) ur talking about controls LOTS of countries

Hey you joking right? How ya prime mionister been sh*ting his pants, when the European consorcium been investigating the situation in Iraq. LOL know why terrorists dont care about small countries? Cause you are easiest target, in a fight on the streets you have to finish a big guy, so others wont fight after! so thats why USA and RUSSIA suffer of terrorists attacks, you just wave ya head and say " We are so sorrrrrryyyyy, but please leave us alone".

EXCUSSES! It is al excusses for the terrorists that they follow some good reason or revenge! Sensible person will never react on violence with violence. Like one of mien friends been shoot on the streets, his dad didnt kill the whole gang! Or like those p*nk terrorists say they pronnounced DJIHAD! I live in islamic city , 75 % are islamic, pray to Alah and the main guy said "Those people never been Islamic, cause there was no case to call a DJIHAD".

CONCLUSION

Terrorists are not only people that follow some target like revenge for dead family. Those are payed people, it is like a job, to shoot in the kids neck, and those people wont have any mercy from me. I am not a warrior, but i do everythign to support mine Country, by making money and make it's economy good, by foundating our army with new weaponary, and it all will be done by paying taxes.

Red wrote:

Sensible person will never react on violence with violence

nice, but then I wonder myself, what happened to the "kill the terrorists families","no mercy to fucking terrorists" slogans?
Red wrote:

Those are payed people, it is like a job

also a bit weird dont you think, there is no way that they get out alive, what good is money if you never be able to spend it?
Red wrote:

Tjechnja was and is our territory.

Im not sure weither what is true or not, but over here they say that Tjechnja people want to be free from Russia (I dont blame them), and why would the russian government and their army kill citisants, destroy and murder entheir villages if they're only searching for those terrorists?? They wont be that stupid to show themselfs. They prob far away from Tjechnja!

Really red, no mather how informed you are, it might be manupilated by the government.

Clear the stage, let RedD and the only person here who shares mine views a.k.a. BlaZe clear you the situation.

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[nice, but then I wonder myself, what happened to the "kill the terrorists families","no mercy to *beep* terrorists" slogans?

Terrorists no way are people , they are trash, so the actions shoudl be the same as to the trash, destroy.

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also a bit weird dont you think, there is no way that they get out alive, what good is money if you never be able to spend it?

OMFG YOU IN OTHER WORLD so..........LOL and you say our goverment hides somethign from us? LOL.

They do it for their famillies, their famillies get the money, they live so bad that the only way they seem to feel easy to get some money from is kill innocent people, you know that they are been zombied by special people, which make them think they are doing it for Alah. Have you heard the outcomming call of one of the terrorists who been calling his mother? Here what he been saying " Mom let Alah be with you, live good, goodluck, ALAH AKBAR", that second our Alfa team inserted a bullet to his head. Or have seen an interview with one the terrorists that been with MASAD? He said that mostly people come with MASAD cause those offer big money, so they can make the future of their famillies better.

NOW THINK THOMITO WHO IS SITTING IN THE AS* AND DONT KNOW A SH*T? we dont have communism anymore!!!

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Im not sure weither what is true or not, but over here they say that Tjechnja people want to be free from Russia (I dont blame them), and why would the russian government and their army kill citisants, destroy and murder entheir villages if they're only searching for those terrorists?? They wont be that stupid to show themselfs. They prob far away from Tjechnja!

LOL First learn geography and history then say that stuff. And if you are coward it doesnt mean the terrorists so too, one of the sub-leaders been destroyed in Chechnja! And once again they are founded by Arabian Oil Magnats, USA goverment and ENGLAND.

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Really red, no mather how informed you are, it might be manupilated by the government.

Remmber your own words, cause your goverment show the things and say, to make you all think Russia is a virus. Ya dont knwo our president also, he did MUCH for Russia !!! Leveled our economy for example and he is really a person i go for against the whole world.

RedD, I am with u bro! All you say is truth. Btw, Thomas, with all my respect...DO U RELLY THINK THAT YOU KNOW MORE ABOUR RUSSIA AND CHECHNJA THAN US? Our brave soildiers DIDN'T KILL their families, didn't killed their children... do u know that there are a lot of russian slaves who live in cells and work for them? Do u know that their(terrorists) women and kids smiles to the soldiers and at night they kill? Do u know that ordinary peolpe in Chechnja never wanted war. The war was orginized by a very powerfull money and with lots of money. Do u really think that it's REVENGE? I've heard one interview which was taken from one of the terrorist group memeber. This terrorist lived in ENGLAND (untill terrorist didn't kill him) and said that a lot of psychologists worked with the terrorists and made "zombies" from them. They work only with money and with people's minds. Do u think that terrorists are desperate soldiers who want to revenge for their families? They are prudent people who payed for their "WORK".

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also a bit weird dont you think, there is no way that they get out alive, what good is money if you never be able to spend it?

This money they give to their families. And they give not only money they give protection from this terrorist groups, cause if they refuse to make the "JOB" they and their families will die...

I've said enough here... I'll talk no more about this, I am back calm and friendly guy... but one thing I should say our government, our president makes everything to make our lives better. And I also know that, as Red said, our president will say to fight against whole world I will go on tanks with my bare hands. And nobody dare to say bad words about my country...

Blaze is out...

Just for ya info mine everything knowing TEA FRIENDS the leader of the terrorists who strike Russia lives in England, so think who is bad informed ;) lol he posts the news he needs in any newspaper in the world, just to make people in other world to think our country is a virus.

CONCLUSION + PURBLIC MESSAGE TO SOME ADMIN

I am sorry for things happened in Beslan, i am really there with those famillies who lost many their relatives, some lost their whole famillies there! Also people in Beslan all been Assatian not Russian ;) So Bio watch you talk, you claim to know everything, but you already lost in 2 quarells.

Lets wrap this topic and pack it up - its time to close it.

Heres the GENERAL conclusion:
To begin with, RedD this isnt a "quarell" and show some respect with the words you use regards to this topic.
You are misguided, you say you dont fight violence with violence yet you contradict yourself. This tells us enough about how good of a discussion this has been. Dont try discuss something thats beyond you. And this also applies to BlaZe, nobody mentioned WAR in this topic - why the need to show intention to go to war for your country? Also havnt you heared the concept of free speech? The right to freely express yourself and talk bad/good about your country? It's a form of human reflection - which is non violent and relieves stress. :idea:

Its common sense to believe that everybody loves their country deeply, thats understandable. But you cant deny that no country is perfect. I can name millions of bad things about Russia but the same applies to UK, USA and every single country out there. But for someone like me who toured around the world, i think my opinion is more valid in this circumstance. I've experienced it all: war, poverty, bad life, crime, good life etc...

Terrorism is BAD nobody said it was a good thing - but at the end of the day you cant deny that they are HUMANS! People arnt born into monsters, their life outcomes and experiences decide on what type of person they shape up into and eventually become. That means how much they suffer, see their families suffer and/or see their people suffer. If they decide to do something to change this will only reflect on how stupid/brave they are. Which obviously depends on how they decide to solve this problem through violence or peaceful methods!

Each and every single country in the world has suffered at some stage in its life time. Doesnt take a genious to figure that out. However, each and every country's power levels also change throughout time. Russia was a superpower a few decades ago, it no longer is. Iraq was a flourishing country running the entire middle east a few decades ago, it no longer is. Africa was a heavenly place to be a few centuries ago, it no longer is.

No this isnt about Russia, lets be real here, this stuff happens each and everyday all around the world. I dont think it'll ever stop, theres no concept of "peace" in some people's hearts. Because nobody is ever satisfied with current life. Which comes down to basic human instinct and design. Always looking and searching for more :!:

The most powerful thing you can give to someone is a BRAIN - but its also the most DESTRUCTIVE thing you can give.

PS: This post outlines all sides of this discussion and explores the areas you were blinded to think about. I hope this clears all your issues. Thank you for your time and attention, lets stick with design related issues once again.
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